Posts by Red Witch

I stayed because I was “admonished” to by those “oh so wonderful elders” and I wanted to be a good jw. It was nothing but a waste of valuable time and certainly put my life in danger along with our 2 children.

If you are being abused in any way IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT and you certainly do not deserve it no matter what! Your abuser will not change under any circumstances.

Unfortunately in my case, I let it go to the point where I realized the children where learning this behavior and my life was about to be extinquished.

There is no easy way. Go as far away as you can and take only what you and you children (if any) need. Disappear if possible. I had to, change your last name and do not tell ANYONE.

You must start over.

Get psychiatric help – to convince you that you are alright and how to avoid getting into another similar relationship.

Feel free to contact me [email protected] if you wish.

89

JWD Maps America America

by Lady Lee in

jw
friends

well here is the start .

if your name is not on it then either it wasn't on the old texas map or it wasn't added to the previous list so... .

if you want your name added please say so and let me know what state you are in.

Red Witch

RedWitch is in California

142

What's the most ridiculous thing you were ever counselled on?

by micheal in

jw
friends

one of the cornerstones of jw's is counsel.

they just love to give counsel and many times they will literally make things up just for the sake of counsel.

i was once counselled for joking around too much.

Red Witch

I am relatively new to this board and have been reading the current posts on this subject as well as the older ones. I can't begin to express the sadness, anquish, and anger this causes me. Yes, I have my stories too. It's been about 25 yrs since I distanced myself from the "org". My protection was to not dwell on the insanity of it all and just live. I was too afraid to face it all. But everyone's experiences here only make my mind and heart free of the evil that is the "watchtower society" and all that it stands for. Thank you all for sharing your experiences, I do not feel so alone anymore...

47

Now That We've Stopped Meetings, What Should We Expect???

by minimus in

jw
friends

my daughter stopped all meetings in the spring.my wife and i went to only a few meetings in the early summer and haven't been to a meeting in over 6 weeks.

my elder friend stops by my work every so often and recently has asked, "am i going to see you at the meeting tonight, min?

" i have said now on 3 occasions, "not tonight......" the other day another elder friend called me out of the blue and asked me how things are going.he said,.he'd like to come by my work and talk a little.

Red Witch

I plan on telling them , as Sgt. Shultz would say, "N O T H I N G "...............I plan on saying, "Sorry, but I'm not answering any questions. Period." I have been out for 25yrs. There will always be someone who will try to corner you. Recently my Dad (elder) tried to corner me and so did one of my sisters. I simply refused to discuss it. My sister just called me a coward and misc other names. My Dad got frustrated and kept trying to force my into conversation (this was over the phone) I just kept to my guns and repeated "How I feel about it all is personal, I understand how you might feel, but it's this is not up for discussion" I would then change the subject until he was worn out. The problem with those who contact you is they are trying to make sure they have a clear conscience. I think it is purely done out of their own self interest in making sure they gain "the prize". So they look good and have no loose ends for anyone else in the org to pick at. My Mother another time asked if I ever got baptised. !!??!! I was insulted they didn't remember. I just threw it back on her asking if she remembered whether I did or not, after all I would have been living in their house at the time as I would of been a minor and besides she had told me previously that I was never a "good witness" after I moved out. Once again, this just drove her to distraction and she kept talking in circles trying to get some sort of statement out of me. So, from my experience, your best bet is to say NOTHING! It does seem to drive the witnesses nuts if they cannot percieve you along with everything/everybody in black and white. Gives me a great deal of satisfaction when I see they cannot judge me. I wouldn't hide or avoid them, just be unapproachable and private. You have every right to simply walk away and have peace. It's up to you to maintain that peace. An don't say Sorry that comes across as weak and an opportunity to dig and poke more at you. Many Blessings! RedWitch

Any Russian Molokans Here?

by Red Witch in

jw
friends

i realize for most of you (99.99+%) my question is puzzling.

i was born and partially raised "molokan" ( a small immigrant russian ancestral (ancestral meaning you have to born into it) 'cult').

my folks began studying with the witnesses when i was 2 and my dad was made co when i was about 13. that's when all hell broke loose.

Red Witch

I realize for most of you (99.99+%) my question is puzzling. I was born and partially raised "Molokan" ( a small immigrant Russian ancestral (ancestral meaning you have to born into it) 'cult'). My folks began studying with the Witnesses when I was 2 and my Dad was made CO when I was about 13. That's when all hell broke loose. Some very strong family ties were coldly broken by my parents as those 'other' family members were unacepting of the JW teachings and stuck to the Molokan ways . Anyway, the Molokan way of life is a very distinctive way of life, and I am aware that a number of Molokans at one time have adopted the JW religion. The two together create a very confusing state of being. At least for me. I gracefully left, if that is truely possible, the JWs many years ago as their way was destructive to me and my children, to put it mildly. So I am curious/looking for others with the same ethnic background. Any help here?

72

Women Over 40

by arrowstar in

jw
friends

a woman over 40 will never wake you in the middle of the night to.

ask, what are you thinking?

" she doesn't care what you think.. .

Red Witch

There is something to that "younger men/older women" myth.

No myth involved here. My husband is 17yrs younger and we have been married 8yrs. Couldn't be happier! Are my lady friends jealous? You bet! What's even better is he has had NO religeous training whatsoever. No ex-wives and no children. Tall, 6'2" handsome and those long legs look incredible when he's on his Harley. So is he a biker bum? No way, holds down a full-time, well-paying job that allows me to not work. woohoooo! It pays to shop around. Although, I have to admit, he fell in love with me back when he was 19, I just made him wait 8 yrs till I was ready. Now he just gives me a hard time about those years that I wasted.

Miss Jessica,

The medical profession is capable of many wonders when it comes to our physical presentation and therefore confidence in front of any little whippersnapper!

78

Wanna see me stick my foot in my mouth? Its a question for you women,

by William Penwell in

jw
friends

i had posted this on another thread but it was a little off topic so someone ask me to start a new thread and get the discussion going on this topic.

i do not mean to offend you ladies out there and i really am not sexist as i really love all of you.

i have had it told to me by people of your sex, they don't understand us guys.

Red Witch

How about this? When I got FREE, I played with all kinds of men, "HA" to the preppy college kid. And I gravitated to the more exciting bad boy, but on my terms as I was the one emotionally unavailable therefore we both had good times. But when I was ready for a partner, I simply wanted someone I was sexually attracted to, could take care of me emotionally, physically, and was head over heals in love with me. The trick to finding someone like that, Mr Penwell, was to not look and give it up to the powers that be, as you do not seem to be making good choices. Have a good talk with whomever your God(s)/Goddess(es) are and sit back and relax. It will happen. I speak from much experience, trust me

31

As a YOUNG loyal JW, did you think you would see you're 60th birthday ?

by run dont walk in

jw
friends

with all the talk in the organization about the end being so close, and we have all heard this story over and over again for years, as a young/loyal jw, did you think you would see your 60th birthday.. if we were to walk into the kingdom hall today and poll all the jw's under 30, and ask them "will you see your 60th birthday", what kind of response would you get ???.

armageddon is not coming, the year 2014 will pass, as will 2025, 2075, 2100, and even 3000. .

would love to hear experiences from some of the older ones on this board, who probaly thought the same thing when they were young.

Red Witch

No way!!! I wasn't going past 25 in 1975. It was my understanding that we would all stop aging as adults. The children would grow up and the oldies would get younger. It majorly stressed me out that at 25 I'd be too old already to enjoy all the wonderful things about the "new world".

Got baptized at 16 just to make sure I had that under my belt by 1975 to help guarantee I'd make it through. 16 was then considered the age of recognition in the org and if you sat on the fence then, there was most likely something wrong with your heart.

I still do not accept that the years are going by, so......I stay 27, the age I left the unhappiness of being a "good Jw".

Why would a loving war god mislead his faithfull and discreet slave and allow them in turn to make false promises??? ahhhhh the disappointment of it all............................

147

Gettin' Personal here.......

by Frannie Banannie in

jw
friends

thanks to little toe's piquing my interest on this subject, i hafta ask it...... .

has anyone here had any personal spiritual experiences and is anyone here brave enough to describe/relate any personal spiritual experiences they've had, whether pre-borg, during being borganized or post-borg?

to be more specific, have you ever seen any angels or spirit creatures, been made aware of their presence in any way, interacted with or communicated with them, or had dream/visions...etc?

Red Witch

I tend to have alot of dreams in which I have much interaction with others, I do not know who these others are. Very little of what is said do I often remember for very long, but they are intense conversations. The other night after much of this interaction, I was shown a name and encouraged to pronounce it and it was spelled out for me to see. Well it was Liji. Not familiar to me at all. So I did a search on the internet and found out Liji is a book of Rites included in the ancient Chinese writtings of Confucious. I am currently reading all I can find. Anyone familiar with this? I suppose if I just keep looking and reading a reason for being told this name will dawn on me. But, could Liji be referring to something else? I wonder...